| [Technique] Réalisations de Maarten JANSSENS | |
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+50eti03-43 Ricovdue cat lzf62 Ed nard gilles 675RDLC cassandre desmofr16 julien #41 gozos crigar Rose Noire electron alextatic Thieu Toop Buell-LN marcolemotard JanBros jankypud Frits Overmars panerai Phytus crazytoon Pomme fpayart FX916 bentou Mykeul EDOUARD Jean fd-racing scrat56 Vehiculeselectriques kosovar Dave Pearce cristogrr Gilles_a_paris Polux rsv 2strokeman davidnb44 rudgissimo Team MLR Eric Offenstadt GrahamB Anton_B superkart Marc MJ-Works ttroncs 54 participants |
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Dave Pearce
Nombre de messages : 201 Age : 69 Localisation : united kingdom Date d'inscription : 12/05/2010
| Sujet: Re: [Technique] Réalisations de Maarten JANSSENS Mar 5 Juil 2016 - 22:00 | |
| I am also glad that everything is OK Maarten. My opinion did not wish for any bad luck ,quite the opposite. I have just finished repairing my new Moto3 after a huge crash at Knockhill BSB fortunately my rider was also OK although he did have a very burnt ear after I had spoken to him. |
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alextatic
Nombre de messages : 357 Age : 53 Localisation : Cali (Colombie) Date d'inscription : 13/11/2011
| Sujet: Re: [Technique] Réalisations de Maarten JANSSENS Mer 6 Juil 2016 - 3:56 | |
| Dave, was it a crash in race 1? I've watched race 2, your bike seems good as well for off road purposes! Keep it up. |
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ttroncs
Nombre de messages : 331 Age : 55 Localisation : Limoges Date d'inscription : 11/04/2012
| Sujet: Re: [Technique] Réalisations de Maarten JANSSENS Mer 6 Juil 2016 - 8:37 | |
| Maarten,
In order to avoid each time you crash to completely rebuilt the rear ally part of the frame (due to footpeg broken bolts), will you change the design of this part to create separate parts that you can change easily or will you stay like today and weld new footpeg bolts each time you crash ? |
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Dave Pearce
Nombre de messages : 201 Age : 69 Localisation : united kingdom Date d'inscription : 12/05/2010
| Sujet: Re: [Technique] Réalisations de Maarten JANSSENS Mer 6 Juil 2016 - 9:28 | |
| - alextatic a écrit:
- Dave, was it a crash in race 1? I've watched race 2, your bike seems good as well for off road purposes!
Keep it up. Thank you Alextatic for your interest. The bike was crashed on the third lap of first qualifying by young rider going too fast too soon. so no more qualifying only repairs and then the races. So a 6th& 4th was a good result after so much damage. My 6 months of hard work were almost destroyed in a moment. Maarten, If you wish to borrow my young "crash test dummy" to really prove your chassis you are welcome. If you are happy I may even let you keep him !. That win first time out seems a distant memory. |
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crazytoon
Nombre de messages : 1429 Age : 50 Localisation : paris Date d'inscription : 05/01/2013
| Sujet: Re: [Technique] Réalisations de Maarten JANSSENS Mer 6 Juil 2016 - 11:12 | |
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Dave Pearce
Nombre de messages : 201 Age : 69 Localisation : united kingdom Date d'inscription : 12/05/2010
| Sujet: Re: [Technique] Réalisations de Maarten JANSSENS Mer 6 Juil 2016 - 12:01 | |
| Great reply crazytoon. I am always friendly although sometimes it does not look that way.
I Type & weld with a smile on my face. |
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MJ-Works
Nombre de messages : 230 Age : 34 Localisation : Kapellen, Belgique Date d'inscription : 24/11/2011
| Sujet: Re: [Technique] Réalisations de Maarten JANSSENS Mer 6 Juil 2016 - 12:05 | |
| - ttroncs a écrit:
- Maarten,
In order to avoid each time you crash to completely rebuilt the rear ally part of the frame (due to footpeg broken bolts), will you change the design of this part to create separate parts that you can change easily or will you stay like today and weld new footpeg bolts each time you crash ? Think you didn't understand it! There is nothing we need to weld! The footpeg broke of but the frame is intact. So I just need to buy a new set of rearsets... I never weld bolts so don't understand what you are saying |
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MJ-Works
Nombre de messages : 230 Age : 34 Localisation : Kapellen, Belgique Date d'inscription : 24/11/2011
| Sujet: Re: [Technique] Réalisations de Maarten JANSSENS Mer 6 Juil 2016 - 12:06 | |
| - Dave Pearce a écrit:
- Great reply crazytoon. I am always friendly although sometimes it does not look that way.
I Type & weld with a smile on my face. I know! No problems!I might even keep him then if you are really that keen ofgiving him away haha. How good is he in cleaning the workshop? |
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ttroncs
Nombre de messages : 331 Age : 55 Localisation : Limoges Date d'inscription : 11/04/2012
| Sujet: Re: [Technique] Réalisations de Maarten JANSSENS Mer 6 Juil 2016 - 14:07 | |
| - MJ-Works a écrit:
- The footpeg broke of but the frame is intact
The rearsets are the weakest part. Understood. |
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Dave Pearce
Nombre de messages : 201 Age : 69 Localisation : united kingdom Date d'inscription : 12/05/2010
| Sujet: Re: [Technique] Réalisations de Maarten JANSSENS Dim 10 Juil 2016 - 23:35 | |
| Sorry Maarten We had a wonderful result at Snetterton BSB Moto3 today so I cannot lend my rider to test your chassis or the footrest hangers Stephane Understood? |
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ttroncs
Nombre de messages : 331 Age : 55 Localisation : Limoges Date d'inscription : 11/04/2012
| Sujet: Re: [Technique] Réalisations de Maarten JANSSENS Lun 11 Juil 2016 - 9:24 | |
| - Dave Pearce a écrit:
- Stephane Understood?
Yes, I think so. |
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crazytoon
Nombre de messages : 1429 Age : 50 Localisation : paris Date d'inscription : 05/01/2013
| Sujet: Re: [Technique] Réalisations de Maarten JANSSENS Lun 11 Juil 2016 - 9:38 | |
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MJ-Works
Nombre de messages : 230 Age : 34 Localisation : Kapellen, Belgique Date d'inscription : 24/11/2011
| Sujet: Advantages Lun 11 Juil 2016 - 15:02 | |
| After the first tests I think it might be time to look at the advantages we've seen with this chassis compared to the standard R6 chassis. I'll give the 3 biggest ones here + some general comments: 1) The first thing you notice is the advantage of the big diet/weight loss on the bike. This means that on circuit zolder and Assen we could keep up with the 1000CC bikes out of every turn to overtake them the next one. Only on the rear straight at Assen we lost contact but regained it under braking. 2) The turn-in is MUCH easier and requiers a lot less input from the rider. This gives more trust going into corners. "Almost no input needed to make it turn" was one of the first remarks of the testrider. 3) Because of the excenter for the swingarm pivot you can choose the amount of anti-squat and adjust to the point that you feel most confident on the bike. The standard R6 is twitchy in the going out of the corners, not giving a lot of trust. This chassis has 12 different settings for anti-squat meaning you can make it react the way YOU like it and we all know that extra confidence in the chassis is what makes you go faster. What we've also noticed is that with the same driver, suspension, tires and track we had chatter in the front wheel on the standard R6 and we don't have it on my MJ-Works frame. This might be a coincidence since we all know that chatter is a dark art but I think the extra flex in the MJ-Works chassis at the headstock makes it more forgiving. (!) Don't forget I didn't set out to build a frame to compete in the moto2 world championship. If I'd try to do that then the only people that could ride it would have been world championship contenders (!) The goals was to make a frame for the hobby- and semi-proffesional rider to get more confidence and better lap times because of that extra confidence (more predictable handling of the chassis) + the loss of weight. A superior R6 engine in a chassis that gives the confidence of a CBR600... Looking at the tests we've done now on Zolder and Assen I can say that the goals hev been reached! Now to get 2 of these chassis sold...If you know someone that's interested --> make him/her contact me. GRTZ MJ |
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Dave Pearce
Nombre de messages : 201 Age : 69 Localisation : united kingdom Date d'inscription : 12/05/2010
| Sujet: Re: [Technique] Réalisations de Maarten JANSSENS Mar 12 Juil 2016 - 11:29 | |
| Maarten I have been building a new bike around the same time as you so I have been following your progress with respectful interest. I have been pleasantly surprised with the results so far in the series my bike is racing in. However the bike isn't remotely finished in terms of development and I would not dream of offering one for sale. You on the other hand after just a couple of track days seem to think the job is finished offering big improvements over the standard bike. If this is correct then you must be the new chassis Messiah and I can only envy your superior knowledge. |
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MJ-Works
Nombre de messages : 230 Age : 34 Localisation : Kapellen, Belgique Date d'inscription : 24/11/2011
| Sujet: Re: [Technique] Réalisations de Maarten JANSSENS Mar 12 Juil 2016 - 14:35 | |
| - Dave Pearce a écrit:
- Maarten I have been building a new bike around the same time as you so I have been following your progress with respectful interest. I have been pleasantly surprised with the results so far in the series my bike is racing in. However the bike isn't remotely finished in terms of development and I would not dream of offering one for sale. You on the other hand after just a couple of track days seem to think the job is finished offering big improvements over the standard bike. If this is correct then you must be the new chassis Messiah and I can only envy your superior knowledge.
Dave, Let's not go there. Please read what I wrote above about what the goal is with this bike. The job is never finished by the way, we both know this! I still make changes to my supermono after 3 years... There is however a point where I need to start offering the chassis (planning wise and financially) but there is a difference between the time when I offer it and when it would be finished for someone that's interested in it. it would be built after this season and after all the testing. In that meantime we keep on testing. Until now it has been 4 very bussy trackdays on 2 tracks, in different conditions. This month there will be 2 more on a 3th track (Zandvoort) and this will continue for the rest of this season. In total we've planned 18 days on 3 different brands of tyres, on 5 different tracks and with 3 different good riders (!!) THIS IS THE MAXIMUM I CAN DO + I'm convinced that if it works good after those test that it has a very good level of performance. Finetuning has to be done with suspension setup and is also a personal thing per rider as you know. And yes, I am convinced about the above-mentiond advantages but we'll have to continue to find ways to make thos strong points even better. |
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crazytoon
Nombre de messages : 1429 Age : 50 Localisation : paris Date d'inscription : 05/01/2013
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MJ-Works
Nombre de messages : 230 Age : 34 Localisation : Kapellen, Belgique Date d'inscription : 24/11/2011
| Sujet: Re: [Technique] Réalisations de Maarten JANSSENS Mer 21 Déc 2016 - 11:29 | |
| test on circuit zolder by independent motorcycle magazine (Motoplus) was a great succes. Here some pictures: [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir cette image]Kind regards, MJ |
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crazytoon
Nombre de messages : 1429 Age : 50 Localisation : paris Date d'inscription : 05/01/2013
| Sujet: Re: [Technique] Réalisations de Maarten JANSSENS Mer 21 Déc 2016 - 12:00 | |
| Arghhhh, english, please!!!!!! Nice to get a bit of attention from a magazine! The bike looks pretty cool too with his new colors and the carbon fairing! |
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alextatic
Nombre de messages : 357 Age : 53 Localisation : Cali (Colombie) Date d'inscription : 13/11/2011
| Sujet: Re: [Technique] Réalisations de Maarten JANSSENS Mer 21 Déc 2016 - 19:28 | |
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nard gilles
Nombre de messages : 416 Age : 75 Localisation : clermont ferrand Date d'inscription : 06/02/2013
| Sujet: Re: [Technique] Réalisations de Maarten JANSSENS Mer 21 Déc 2016 - 20:08 | |
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lzf62
Nombre de messages : 209 Localisation : 62 Date d'inscription : 02/08/2013
| Sujet: Re: [Technique] Réalisations de Maarten JANSSENS Mer 21 Déc 2016 - 22:08 | |
| Bonjour, Et en plus, elle est belle! Félicitations. |
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MJ-Works
Nombre de messages : 230 Age : 34 Localisation : Kapellen, Belgique Date d'inscription : 24/11/2011
| Sujet: Re: [Technique] Réalisations de Maarten JANSSENS Ven 6 Jan 2017 - 8:56 | |
| Merci a tous! (my best French... ) There will be a test done by a professional pilot on circuit Assen next spring (April or may) I will only make two more of these frames, so 3 including this prototype. Kind regards, MJ |
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2strokeman
Nombre de messages : 1188 Age : 49 Localisation : au pays du champagne Date d'inscription : 07/06/2011
| Sujet: Re: [Technique] Réalisations de Maarten JANSSENS Ven 6 Jan 2017 - 11:30 | |
| Good news !! very good job, congratulations guy ! |
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philou
Nombre de messages : 164 Localisation : france Date d'inscription : 27/08/2009
| Sujet: Re: [Technique] Réalisations de Maarten JANSSENS Sam 8 Juil 2017 - 10:38 | |
| Malheureusement la plupart des photos de se topic ont disparu.
Les hebergeurs tiers c'est vraiment la merde.
Une solution pérenne d'hébergement directement sur le serveur du forum serait à mettre en place |
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nortumph
Nombre de messages : 1259 Age : 64 Localisation : Loire-Atlantique Date d'inscription : 27/11/2010
| Sujet: Re: [Technique] Réalisations de Maarten JANSSENS Sam 8 Juil 2017 - 10:46 | |
| - philou a écrit:
- Malheureusement la plupart des photos de se topic ont disparu.
Les hebergeurs tiers c'est vraiment la merde.
Une solution pérenne d'hébergement directement sur le serveur du forum serait à mettre en place Cette solution existe déjà, il s'agit de servimg, l'hébergeur intégré à ce forum (ainsi qu'a l'ensemble des forums "forumactif"), à moins que le posteur aille sur son compte servimg pour supprimer les photos elles ne sont quasiment jamais supprimées, saufs bugs exceptionnels. |
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