Voilà les dernières nouvelles de Marquez concernant sa présence au Quatar:



"Il y a une probabilité pour que je n'y sois pas"

"C'est une blessure qui a besoin de temps pour se remettre. Un nerf, ce n'est pas comme un os. Après mon opération, j'ai noté de bon progrès. Je ne vois plus double mais encore un peu trouble. Je reviendrai aussitôt que je le pourrai."

Avec un sujet pareil "Rumeurs et transferts..." comment résister ?

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Merci pour le scoop!



Après les 3 jours d'essais Moto2 à Jerez, Ricky Cardus, qui a pu comparer la Suter et l'AJR, a décidé de faire sa saison avec cette dernière.

Pas très encourageant pour la dernière production suisse...

A titre anecdotique, le team déclare fièrement que cela fera vingt ans qu'une moto espagnole n'avait pas fait une saison complète de GP (depuis 1991 et les JJ Cobas)...
Et les Derbi 125, ils ne connaissent pas?

Heu... les dernières (Aprilia) Derbi espagnoles?
Les stickers peut être, mais la conception et fabrication étaient plutôt italiennes, non?

yves kerlo a écrit:

Heu... les dernières (Aprilia) Derbi espagnoles?
Les stickers peut être, mais la conception et fabrication étaient plutôt italiennes, non?

Y a pas un certain "Lorenzo" qui roulait avec une vrai Derbi espagnole en GP125 ? Avant qu'on ne commence à jouer avec des autocollants sur des motos italiennes...

De même pour Poggiali (champion du monde) ou le japonais Ui à l'époque. Et là elles n'avaient rien à voir avec les Aprilia...

yves kerlo a écrit:

Heu... les dernières (Aprilia) Derbi espagnoles?
Les stickers peut être, mais la conception et fabrication étaient plutôt italiennes, non?

Chers amis, considéreriez-vous que les travaux de Monsieur Jan Thiel chez Derbi (voire ceux de Monsieur Overmars), c'est du pipi de chat?
A ma connaissance, ce sont justement ces fameuses RSA qui sont des motos espagnoles honteusement rebadgées Aprilia!



VIVA ESPANA !

Tout à fait Marc

drt67: The 'Spanish' Derbi's engines were made in Austria.
By Bartol, a Yamaha engine with a Honda cilinder copy.
And the team base was in Italy
The chassis were made in England
And the fairing was developed by Porsche in Germany.
In Spain there was nothing but 2 secretaries!
Who paid the bills!

Ah zut, ça se complique!

Jan, please, could you tell us when and where did you work, and for who?
Your job was not only to "speak" with the 2 secretaries?

Yes Marc, of course.
I had an offer to work for Derbi in 1997, but could not go.
Then they contracted Bartol.
But he always worked at home, in Austria.
And the bikes were prepared in a workshop in Italy.
At a certain point he went to KTM although he was still under contract for the next year with Derbi!
The case went to tribunal, and Bartol had to pay damages to Derbi.
Derbi contacted me again but I did not go there, but Mr. Dall'Igna went there as tecnical director.
The actual work in 2004 was done by Olivier Liegeois, and he did a good job in my opinion.
When Derbi contacted me for the 3rd time in march 2004 I signed a contract with them for 2005.
I was lucky enough to be able to leave Aprilia in september 2004 and started to work for Derbi.
First I did a bit of work at home in Italy and I went to Derbi many times, by plane, staying 2 or 3 days.
In november I went to live in Spain and worked there until march 2006
In this period the later RSA engine was designed, it ran for the first time in october 2005.
It was designed with the idea of beating Aprilia, the existing Yamaha/Honda copy was not good enough.
In the meantime Aprilia was bought by Piaggio, Aprilia was deep in debt at the time, reportedly 400 million E
Piaggio decided they did not want to own 2 racing teams competing with each other.
So they decided to close the Derbi team and I had to go back to Aprilia, which I did not like to do.
In Aprilia the engine got a new name, RSA, and was used as an Aprilia engine.
Many people at Aprilia did not like this as it was not designed by them.
After some trouble it became a good engine and it won some world championships.
I retired at the end of 2007 and went to live in Thailand with my family.
At Derbi I worked much to my liking, with very nice people, we are still contacting sometimes!
I think that you can honestly say that the RSA is a Spanish engine.
Certainly more than the Bartol engine which was a design robbed from Yamaha and fitted with a cilinder
and exhaust copied from Honda.
Yamaha protested later and Derbi had to pay Yamaha for their design!

Thanks for this explanation !

It's easier to understand when the people which are on the origin of the things are talking !

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Now, we know!

C'est pour ça qu'on aime Pit-Lane...

well jan, with all the respect that you deserve, I would say that the rsa is a thiel european engine : you know better than anybody than since you started to work with factories outside your native country, you have been using the best taken from where it was made : german pistons or crankshafts, italian castings and so on - did you ever use a french component, just to please our gallic pride ?

bubu a écrit:

did you ever use a french component, just to please our gallic pride ?

Yes Bubu, a Peugeot 205 1.9 GTI; Jan's Garelli company car. Best car we've ever driven .

At Aprilia we had 250 crankcases cast in France by the lost wax method.
The lightest crankcases we ever had!
And the RSA connecting rod was made from French steel, incredibly strong!

And yes, I had a Peugeot 205 GTI, it was very much better than the VW GTI I had before!
Not only faster but much more reliable!
And the only car I had in my life with the right gearing.
Most cars nowadays are faster in 4th than in 5th!

Thank you Jan!

But now, you would have to use Indian steel...

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Jonas Folger n’a plus de guidon !

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Pas de sponsors pour MZ et gros sponsors pour d'autres, le monde n'est pas que simple, désolé pour Jonas Folger !!
Aujourd'hui, à Madrid pendant la quatrieme journée du Chanpionnat du Monde de X-Trial, aura lieu la présentation officielle des pilotes Repsol, Casey Stoner, Dany Pedrosa, Marc Marquez, Alex Marquez, Maverick Vinales, Alex Rins et Miguel Oliveira !

THIROB a écrit:

la présentation officielle des pilotes Repsol, Casey Stoner, Dany Pedrosa, Maverick Vinales, Alex Rins et Miguel Oliveira !

Marc Marquez ne sera pas de la partie ?!?

Alexis

alexis-bg a écrit:

THIROB a écrit:

la présentation officielle des pilotes Repsol, Casey Stoner, Dany Pedrosa, Maverick Vinales, Alex Rins et Miguel Oliveira !

Marc Marquez ne sera pas de la partie ?!?

Alexis

Merci Alexis, rectifié !
J'avais carrément zappé pas un Marquez mais deux....

C'est ballot; il n'y a pas de Français!