[Moto2] Taylormade Racing

Dernière édition par Marc le Sam 1 Jan 2011 - 13:05, édité 1 fois

Signalée très gentiment par Tigcraft (thanks very much), cette réalisation ne peut laisser indifférent!

Designée par John Keogh et construite par Taylormade à Van Nuys en Californie du Sud, elle utilise un châssis exosquelette en carbone et une sorte de Télélever à l'avant.

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J'adore la "bouche" qui semble faire un rot lol!

Sans préjuger en rien de ses qualités, je trouve que le surnom "le mérou" lui irait assez bien...

[Moto2] Taylormade Racing 771973

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Ou "emmanuelle Béart" lol!

En tout cas, je n'irai pas jusqu'à dire que c'est beau mais on peut difficilement faire plus original !

Plutôt Mick Jagger, comme le suggère Tigcraft!

lol!

Toujours est-il que cette moto présente bien des originalités intéressantes, y compris dans la technique de mise en oeuvre du carbone, dont nous pourrions en savoir plus grâce à un contact direct avec son designer.

Un peu de patience....

[Moto2] Taylormade Racing 771973

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Effectivement, original les fourreaux de fourche montés à l'envers pour avoir les tubes en haut.. [Moto2] Taylormade Racing 438659

Il fallait y penser..
Joli travail fait sur la coque!!

The front fork is based on CBR 600 legs, So clever (if it works)

"An engineer is someone who can do for 10 cents what anyone else can do for a Euro."

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Hi! Dave.

Your right to say "if it works" !!!
Because for anybody who has been designing à "TELELEVER" kinetics once in its life : It clear that it will need billions of prayers and more, to do what a fast bike has to do... lol

But I do love the carbon "monocoque" !

C'est vrai qu'elle est "incroyable" cette moto2..

Le mot "exosquelette" est bien approprié..la selle et le réservoir final forment le cadre..
Dommage pour le telever..

Peut etre une entourloupe pour contourner le réglement =ne pas toucher à la boite à air , mais enfermer celle-ci dans une autre boite ...va savoir lol!

Invité

Cette moto donne l'impression que la moindre petite chute va couter très très cher ...

Mais en tout cas, c'est beau, ça change un peu !

It reminds me of the original Honda NR500 (the "Never Ready"): same exoskeleton-frame. If you wanted to change jets, you had to take the engine out of the frame.
Well, it seems every new generation of engineers has to make its own mistakes....

history repeating, again and again !

the designer should have learned this :

"Je m'intéresse aux motos d'hier parce que j'espère y trouver des idées pour les motos de demain..."

does it remember something frits ?

(it's from you) [Moto2] Taylormade Racing 771973

Sujet: Re: [Moto2] Taylormade Racing Sam 1 Jan 2011 - 7:39

Pourquoi inventer un nouveau mot ? Pourquoi "exosquelette"? Il y a un mot français très connu et qui convient très bien :

crustacé

En plus c'est de saison...

Sujet: Re: [Moto2] Taylormade Racing Sam 1 Jan 2011 - 10:46

Où se situe le radiateur?
Sous la selle au bout des deux conduits latéraux ou au bout du conduit central?

Sujet: Re: [Moto2] Taylormade Racing Sam 1 Jan 2011 - 11:59

The radiator is in the rear ala Britten ,hence the four ducts , two are hanging loose with the
front fairing removed. The other two ducts feed the STANDARD airbox.
Another interesting aspect is the layup of the monocoque TUB no autoclave has been used,
instead they have employed the techniques of Burt Rutan which are much more cost effective.
Check out Burt Rutan, a very very interesting man, with almost as many quotes as Einstein.

Some figures , 1350mm wheelbase, swing arm 585mm and the Tub is just a single layer
3mm thick so just 6mm wider than the engine.

Tigcraft has no connection whatsoever with this project except my friendship with
John Keogh

My T shirts say this

"The only way to be absolutely safe is never try anything for the first time"

"

Sujet: Re: [Moto2] Taylormade Racing Sam 1 Jan 2011 - 12:20

Thanks for these infomations.
Another question: Are the "mudguards", over and under the swing arm, contributing to the rigidity or maybe the inferior one could have an "aero" function?

Sujet: Re: [Moto2] Taylormade Racing Sam 1 Jan 2011 - 13:02

Dave Pearce a écrit:: My T shirts say this

"The only way to be absolutely safe is never try anything for the first time"

Yes.
We have to open our mind and getting John Keogh here would be a great oportunity to do it.
At this time, any non classical approach is interesting... specialy in Moto2![left]

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Sujet: Re: [Moto2] Taylormade Racing Sam 1 Jan 2011 - 13:33

MANETON a écrit:: Thanks for these infomations.
Another question: Are the "mudguards", over and under the swing arm, contributing to the rigidity or maybe the inferior one could have an "aero" function?

maybe to keep the tyre warm ?

Sujet: Re: [Moto2] Taylormade Racing Sam 1 Jan 2011 - 15:06

Maneton

I don't think there has been too much thought given to aerodynamics at the moment , however
thank you for referring to it as a mudguard. I always have to explain to my American friends
that a Fender is a guitar!

Ref the comments of Frits

There is a detachable panel to enable the removal of the carbs to change the jets ! !

I will ask John Keogh to enter the dicussion .

The bike has been tested by Shawn Higbee the ex Buell works with encouraging results.

Not perfect but encouraging.

Sujet: Re: [Moto2] Taylormade Racing Sam 1 Jan 2011 - 19:12

Dave Pearce a écrit:: Another interesting aspect is the layup of the monocoque TUB no autoclave has been used,
instead they have employed the techniques of Burt Rutan which are much more cost effective.
Check out Burt Rutan, a very very interesting man, with almost as many quotes as Einstein.

About Burt Rutan I agree with you : He is a great man...
But, the planes built with his techniques are heavy, what about this bike ?

Sujet: Re: [Moto2] Taylormade Racing Sam 1 Jan 2011 - 19:46

Dave Pearce a écrit:: Ref the comments of Frits: There is a detachable panel to enable the removal of the carbs to change the jets !

I had rather been waiting for a comment like 'There are no jets; we've got injection'. But OK, the designer has thought deeper than I feared. That pleases me.
Still, the original Honda NR500 with exo-skeleton chassis had a lot more faults built into it; I got some real-time experience through my contacts with its rider Takazumi Katayama.

Citation :: My T shirts say this "The only way to be absolutely safe is never try anything for the first time"

Right. And what a miserable life that would yield. Please do not be afraid of making mistakes.
I too have a T-shirt. On the front it says "Everybody has to make their own mistakes".
On the back it says: "But you must also learn from other people's mistakes 'cause you won't live long enough to make them all yourself" 8) .

Sujet: Re: [Moto2] Taylormade Racing Sam 1 Jan 2011 - 19:55

But where do you find all those Tshirts?

lol!

Boys, may be you are a little "hard" with this bike:
- Heavy carbon is still lighter than aluminium...
- There are not jets, but also nothing to set up on this engine...

So the problem is not exactly the same than on NR 500.

Let's give a chance to John Keogh to defend his project and explain us his point of view.

[Moto2] Taylormade Racing 771973

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Sujet: Re: [Moto2] Taylormade Racing Sam 1 Jan 2011 - 20:09

Citation :: Let's give a chance to John Keogh to defend his project and explain us his point of view.

Do you think I have been a little too provocative, Marc? I would love nothing more than John explaining his line of thought here.

Sujet: Re: [Moto2] Taylormade Racing Sam 1 Jan 2011 - 20:15

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